Fathiya Saleh talks comedy and being part of the Arabs vs Asians stand-up show
By Asjad NazirOct 25, 2021
THE Arabs Vs Asians tour brings together top stand-up talent in a laughter-filled comedy clash.
One performer on the action-packed line-up at three of the shows to look out for is rising comedy star Fathiya Saleh, who will be delivering her own unique brand of humour at The Arts Centre, Hounslow (October 29), Birmingham’s Midlands Arts Centre (November 4) and Harrow Arts Centre (November 5).
Having grown up watching movies with Martin Lawrence, Chris Tucker and Bernie Mac, she was connected to comedy from a young age and saw it as an escape. Then later after university, she binge-watched stand-up shows and decided to pursue it.
Eastern Eye caught up with Fathiya to discuss comedy, the Arabs Vs Asians show and balancing stand-up with a youth working career.
How did your stand-up journey start?
A mini showcase was happening at my university with a student group that I was part of, and I thought maybe this could be where I try out some material for the first time. I never ended up performing, but the idea of writing material and performing it being scary and exciting motivated me to actually pick up a pen and start.
What can you remember about your first stand-up gig?
My first gig ended up being an open mic in New Cross. I remember being nervous and pretending to go to the bathroom to keep my nerves in check. When the organiser said I was on next, a wave of nerves hit me again and I said, “Can you let someone else go before me please, I’m not ready.” He called another comic, who ended up not being there, so from the stage he announced, “This is awkward – this girl asked to go on after, but I guess you have to come on now.” Which was quite funny.
How much are you looking forward to the Arabs Vs Asians show?
I’m really looking forward to it. When I heard the name, I immediately wanted to do it. It sounds like something I would watch as an audience member, so I might sit down after my set and watch some of the show too.
What can we expect from your set?
Silly jokes about pork!
How do you feel before going on stage?
I get a bit of adrenaline but in a good way. I also feel very grateful, and I say a little prayer.
How do you feel being on a bill with so many experienced comedians?
I’m excited. I recognise some of them already so it will be nice to meet in person.
How do you balance being a youth worker with comedy?
I have to make sure I’m getting my work stuff done, make sure I’m prioritising my prayers and deen (faith), make sure I’ve spent time with my mum, make sure I have time for myself and leave time for comedy. Everything in life is all about balance. I’m just very grateful that I have a job I love, helping young people and that I have God in my life. I read somewhere that if you focus on your deen and the afterlife, everything in this world and
this life falls into place, so that’s what I try to do.
What is the reaction when you tell people you are a stand-up comedian?
I don’t really tell people. It does come up sometimes if someone has seen something online, but I don’t really mention it unless it comes up. The reaction, though, is always a good one, which is nice.
Has being funny every helped you in real life?
I used to work in a supermarket and was late to work every day (not on purpose, just brown people timing). One day HR came in to have a discusion about me getting a disciplinary
for it and the possibility of me being fired. After the meeting, my manager told me that HR found me very charming and funny, and were going to keep me on.
Who is your comedy hero?
I have a lot of comedy heroes, but I really admire Dave Chappelle. He’s someone who will walk away from something if it’s not right and I like that.
Who is the funniest person you know in real life?
Definitely my mum. No competition. She’s funnier than me and anyone I know. She can make anyone laugh.
Finally, why should we come to the Arabs Vs Asians show?
It will be a fun, wholesome night out. Something to cheer all of us up, especially after everything we have experienced with the pandemic.
ACTOR Raj Ghatak praised the enduring appeal of The Producers as he takes on a role in the hit Broadway show, now playing in the West End.
Ghatak is the first person of colour to portray Carmen Ghia, the flamboyant partner of eccentric director Roger DeBris (Trevor Ashley) and, consequently, his character is dressed in the south Asian attire of sherwani (tunic) and kurta pyjama.
In an interview with Eastern Eye, he said, “The world was arguably a happier place when it was first written.
“But what we’re finding now is that audiences are so grateful to laugh. They sit down, immerse themselves in the story, and forget everything else. That’s the power of theatre.”
Describing the show as a kind of “therapy” for modern times, Ghatak said, “Audiences tell us how welcome it is to laugh so hard again”.
It is the first major London revival of American filmmaker and actor Mel Brooks’ classic, which earned an unprecedented 12 Tony Awards, and has transferred from a sold-out run at the Menier Chocolate Factory to the Garrick Theatre.
Based on Brooks’ 1967 cult film, the story follows two desperate Broadway producers who scheme to get rich by producing a flop, only for their plan to go hilariously wrong.
Trevor Ashley as Roger DeBris and Ghatak as Carmen Ghia in The Producers
Teeming with Brooks’ signature wit, the show delights in its irreverence, sending up everything from show business to politics. Ghatak said, “It’s massively exciting to be part of it. And this time around, they’ve leaned in to my ethnicity. I wear a kurta pajama and a sherwani – things that have obviously never been done before. It gives us visibility.”
Two decades ago, Ghatak starred in Bombay Dreams, AR Rahman’s West End musical produced by Andrew Lloyd Webber, that became a cultural turning point for British Asian performers.
Ghatak recalled how the show “broke the glass ceiling for south Asian actors”.
He said, “At the time, it was just a job – a very high-profile one. But, years later, people tell me they were taken to see that show as children, and because of it, they felt they had permission to be an actor. That’s something that was never the case in my day.”
That generational shift is something Ghatak takes pride in. “When I look back, it feels like we’ve come a long way. But we still have a long way to go.”
Being part of The Producers brought Ghatak face to face with one of his heroes. Brooks himself, now 99, had to approve his casting.
The actor said, “They filmed my meeting. I met the team on a Friday afternoon, and on Monday morning they said, ‘Pending Mel Brooks’ approval, we’d like to offer you the role.’ I remember thinking, if I don’t get his approval, does this mean I can’t do the job?”
The cast had four weeks of full-time rehearsals. “For that production, I watched both films,” Ghatak said, referring to the 1967 original and the 2005 version with Nathan Lane and Matthew Broderick.
“I wanted to understand the source material. I’m a firm believer that if it’s not broke, don’t fix it. Otherwise, you’re changing something for the sake of it. But rehearsals are where you experiment and play.” He credited both Brooks’ writing and Patrick Marber’s direction for the show’s humour.
“Our director comes from a background of plays. My own background is in plays, TV and film. So, we both approached this with the idea that, however heightened the situation or character, it must be grounded in truth,” he said.
Ghatak trained at the Royal Central School of Speech and Drama and Queen Mary University in London and has worked with Emma Thompson, Nicole Kidman, Riz Ahmed, Sir Derek Jacobi, Ewan M c G r e - g o r, Hugh Jackman and Benedict Cumberbatch. His stage credits include The Kite Runner, Life of Pi, Everybody’s Talking About Jamie and The Father and the Assassin. He has worked with some of the most respected directors in theatre, including Dominic Cooke, Indhu Rubasingham, Rufus Norris, Kerry Michael and now Marber.
Despite his achievements, the actor is conscious of the ongoing struggles for representation. He said, “As much as the situation has improved, we’ve still got a long way to go. Roles that challenge me, excite me. There are so many stories from the Asian subcontinent and diaspora that deserve to be told.
“When I started, there were very few people I could look to as role models. That’s why I’ve become such a champion for diversity and inclusion.”
Born and raised in north London to Bengali parents from Kolkata, he grew up surrounded by music and culture.
“My father was a doctor, and my mother was a chemistry teacher,” Ghatak said, adding, “But there was always music at home. My father sings Rabindra Sangeet, my mother plays guitar, and my sister is a classical singer.” Initially, he didn’t see acting as a viable career. “I went to a very academic school.
My interests were split between medical sciences and the performing arts.”
Eventually, he followed his childhood passion and trained as an actor.
He said, “A show like The Producers challenges me in a different way - it makes me laugh and it makes me think. That’s what keeps me passionate about the work.”
Asked what continues to excite him about musical theatre, Ghatak said, “Being in this show and telling this story. The comedy, the chaos, the craft… it’s such a joy. And to be the only person of colour among the six principal cast members, representing our community on such a stage, that’s something I’m proud of.”
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